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You’re all set to make your next move – the first date proposal.

At this point, it’s best to keep up the momentum and pitch the first date during the first conversation, within 30 minutes of chatting to her on Whats App.

When you first begin to push for a first date within hours of getting a response from a women, you may start to feel uneasy. Learn not to take rejections or flaky behaviour personally. You can use another messaging tool, but I prefer Whatsapp.

At this point you are probably wondering why bother moving her to another messaging system.

If the conversation is flowing, go for it as soon as possible.

If you get a sense she isn’t that in to you, build some more comfort by asking about her, before proposing the date. Ask: As with the transition message, you should ask this as part of an on-going conversation, not randomly out of the blue. But you are implying that you are about to ask her out.

Tinder, Happn and these other fancy apps hadn’t been invented. After completing my profile I sat back and waited for the messages to come pouring in. Just like in real life it was up to me as the man to make the approach. I don’t care what app or dating site you are on, as a man you need to be initiating conversations with tens of girls before you get a response. Below I’m going to outline a strategy you can use to ensure you are not one of those men, and increase the number of women you get from online dating to a first date. It is your role as a man to ask her out and either be rejected or win the prize. That shit is not only needy but it’s also incredibly creepy.

Right now I would guess my response rate to an initial message is about 5%. Because if you get a response to your opening message then your odds of getting a first date are excellent, especially if you do it right. I’m not going to teach you what to send in an opening message, or how to engage in the conversation. And if you follow the process your chances of being rejected will dramatically decrease (you will still be rejected though…many times…deal with it). Chatting online is not about: The purpose of chatting online is to make her feel attracted and safe enough to meet you in person.

You can see when she is online and has seen your messages. Here’s what most men do, and what you should never, EVER do again: When you’re ready to propose the first date, do it in a similar fashion to the transition proposal. It is possible though, but only expect that response 5% of the time. When I don’t use the line above, I’ll go with something like “Where in London are you based?

Therefore, once you get her into conversation, keep responding! The only exception is if she is about to head away on holiday. I’m not a fan of overly long messaging back and forth so let’s meet up in ‘real life’ (scary I know) and find out more about each other”.

The TRM should be comprised of 5 parts: Both examples are fun, outcome independent and non-needy. If she doesn’t message, you don’t care because you have other women in your life. You are supplicating and indicating nervousness by asking if she is OK with something you want to do. It comes across as though she is the only women who has ever chatted with you and you are pleading with her to keep talking to you.

You haven’t asked her to message you or if she wants to Whatsapp. You’ve also forgotten your name, and haven’t closed the previous conversation. 20% (I totally made up that stat because I never send a message like this! IMPORTANT: Please, PLEASE do not abuse her trust in giving you her number by acting like a man-child.

When you read my strategy below you’ll see what I mean. I don’t pay too much attention to this, but here are some things to consider: In other words, there is no ideal time to message. That means you don’t care if you are rejected (and as I said before, you will get rejected, many, many times). It’s time to convert your online chat to a first date.

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